Wednesday, December 24, 2008
I need those outlines!
Come on folks, push has come to shove! ASU needs their stuff. Send it to me NOW!
Friday, December 19, 2008
The News is not good!
There is no way you people are going to have these things done Monday.
Craters - You need to tell me what the classification of craters looks like. You can't just say the words.
Volcanoes - What happened to finding the relative ages of lava tubes on the slope? That was a great topic! What you gave me doesn't even make sense.
Confluence - You're still way to vague. How are you going to identify these features. You really said nothing.
I'll see you on Monday.
Craters - You need to tell me what the classification of craters looks like. You can't just say the words.
Volcanoes - What happened to finding the relative ages of lava tubes on the slope? That was a great topic! What you gave me doesn't even make sense.
Confluence - You're still way to vague. How are you going to identify these features. You really said nothing.
I'll see you on Monday.
Friday, December 12, 2008
More Information from ASU!
This was some feedback from a scientist for your cratering group’s question:
In general, I think that it is a good set of questions. Thedistribution of crater sizes to get at ages will be a bit differentfor the Moon and Mars just because the cratering rate is a bitdifferent in different parts of the solar system. The difference is probably not that big of a deal, however.One general comment that I have is that I think that anything that canbe done to keep the question simple and well tied to the data thatneeds to be collected would be good. The atmosphere problem seems alittle vague still and of course should have a null result for theMoon.Students should think of the specific features they arelooking for.
In general, I think that it is a good set of questions. Thedistribution of crater sizes to get at ages will be a bit differentfor the Moon and Mars just because the cratering rate is a bitdifferent in different parts of the solar system. The difference is probably not that big of a deal, however.One general comment that I have is that I think that anything that canbe done to keep the question simple and well tied to the data thatneeds to be collected would be good. The atmosphere problem seems alittle vague still and of course should have a null result for theMoon.Students should think of the specific features they arelooking for.
Monday, December 8, 2008
Comments from ASU
Listed below are the comments that the scientist in charge of the MSIP project posted. Review and do what she says!
Cratering question -
This sounds interesting – though the students should keep in mind that these ages would be relative ages not true ages. They should also be careful to consider the fact that there are processes that have affected and changed the martian surface that have had no effect on the lunar surface.
Lava Tubes -
For this one, I would steer them more towards “Does the number and size of lava tubes on Martian volcanoes relate to the possible age of a volcanoes. There is no way they can determine the age of a flow, unless they can differentiate between flows and if a lava tubes is detected on that particular flow. It they looked at the number and size of lava tubes on different volcanoes, almost looking at the distribution of lava tubes on volcanoes, they may hypothesize that the more collapsed lava tubes, the older the volcano. They should look up scientist thoughts on relative ages of volcanoes. For example, the Tharsis volcanoes are thought to be younger than Alba Patera (which is the large structure to the north of Tharsis). Other volcanoes, like Syrtis Major, are less “noticeable” and thought to be quite old. Maybe this group should watch the archive of our volcanoes presentation. That is available at: https://breezemeeting.asu.edu/p59558709/
Channels Question:
For this one, they may want to focus on what characteristics are generally associated with channels formed by water or lava and then use that criteria to find images in whatever area they are looking at, to see if they can make a determination. This group may also want to look at the archived distance learning presentation listed above on volcanoes as there is a discussion about lava textures and lava channels. They may also be interested in the Surface Features on Mars presentation that talks about volcano features as well as water related features. That archive is available at: https://breezemeeting.asu.edu/p50033490/
Cratering question -
This sounds interesting – though the students should keep in mind that these ages would be relative ages not true ages. They should also be careful to consider the fact that there are processes that have affected and changed the martian surface that have had no effect on the lunar surface.
Lava Tubes -
For this one, I would steer them more towards “Does the number and size of lava tubes on Martian volcanoes relate to the possible age of a volcanoes. There is no way they can determine the age of a flow, unless they can differentiate between flows and if a lava tubes is detected on that particular flow. It they looked at the number and size of lava tubes on different volcanoes, almost looking at the distribution of lava tubes on volcanoes, they may hypothesize that the more collapsed lava tubes, the older the volcano. They should look up scientist thoughts on relative ages of volcanoes. For example, the Tharsis volcanoes are thought to be younger than Alba Patera (which is the large structure to the north of Tharsis). Other volcanoes, like Syrtis Major, are less “noticeable” and thought to be quite old. Maybe this group should watch the archive of our volcanoes presentation. That is available at: https://breezemeeting.asu.edu/p59558709/
Channels Question:
For this one, they may want to focus on what characteristics are generally associated with channels formed by water or lava and then use that criteria to find images in whatever area they are looking at, to see if they can make a determination. This group may also want to look at the archived distance learning presentation listed above on volcanoes as there is a discussion about lava textures and lava channels. They may also be interested in the Surface Features on Mars presentation that talks about volcano features as well as water related features. That archive is available at: https://breezemeeting.asu.edu/p50033490/
Saturday, December 6, 2008
Sorry about Monday!
I totally forgot that I had two meetings on Monday after school. Let's try for Wednesday.
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